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    • February 10, 2014

    IS There Such Thing As A Tent Small Enough To Fit In A School Backpack? Preferably a fold up with NO POLES!! Cheap too…

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      If you are not having poles then yes, you can get shelters to fit in a school backpack.

      Look on line for a bothy bag – these are waterproof shelters and you sitting in them supports the tent – though you have to sit up in them to keep warm and dry (these are designed as emergency shelters)

      You can get a bivvi bag, which is like a waterproof sleeping bag

      You could get a ‘tarp’ – just a waterproof fabric that is suspended from trees (see Ray Mears TV programmes – he uses them a lot)

      These should fold up in a School bag

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    • RZ
    • February 11, 2014

    This Is A Sleep Bag ? http://www.terra-nova.co.uk/tarps-bivis-bothies/all-bivis-bivi-bags/titan-bivi/

    i want to buy it but not sure it is just a cover or sleep bag. could any body tell me that is enable to keep my body warm in extremly temp ?

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      It is a bivi bag or bivouac bag, a shell that can used instead of a tent. It goes over the sleeping bag.

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    When Ur Climbing A Mountain? When u r climbing a mountaion and u get rly tired whatr the stops calld that u can stop at

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      Mountain huts,or simply huts
      http://www.travel-quest.co.uk/mountain-huts.htm . . .
      http://adventureblog.visitscotland.com/land/mountain-biking-to-the-cic-hut-on-ben-nevis/ . . . .

      Refuges . . .called Refugios in Spanish, especially on the Camino de Santiago, (the Way of St. James) the oldest tourist trail in Europe. Some are on the mountains, some in towns, and are free to stay in for people taking part in the Camino de Santiago…the Pilgrim’s route to the Cathedral of St. James in Santiago in north west Spain. San Tiago is Spanish for St. James. Some of the refuges are hundreds of years old, and the pilgrimage trail is over a thousand years old. Some of my happiest walking has been on the Camino, and Santiago de Compostela….which means St James of the Field of Stars….is a wonderful city to visit.
      http://www.geocities.com/stewgreen/travel/camino/refuges.htm . . . .
      http://www.humnet.ucla.edu/santiago/spancmno.html . . .
      http://www.cyberspain.com/ciudades-patrimonio/fotos/sancatei.htm . . . .

      The word ‘refuge’ is used in the Alps for small, normally stone-built structures often beside commonly-used mountain paths, which are not as big as huts, and are sometimes not even big enough to stand up in but provide shelter for one or several people sitting on the floor. It is common practice for people to carry a couple of tins or sealed jars of food that will keep a long time, to leave in the refuges for use by people who are caught in bad weather, and it is considered a courtesy amongst walkers and climbers to do so. There is a code of decency amongst the walkers and climbers only to take or eat food from the refuges if it is necessary. It is there to help people in emergencies, not as free goodies for all.
      If a look inside shows there is already some food there we just keep the cans for another refuge which may have none or only a little.
      It is also usual to carry one or two pieces of wood from the valley to leave in the refuges so people caught in bad weather can make a fire and get warm.
      Through the summer quite a large pile of wood can build up with hundreds of walkers all adding to it.
      Small refuges tend to be built at higher altitudes in the mountains where it is too high to build a proper hut or the weather is too severe for a hut to last long.

      Some very grand huts are also called refuges …rifugio in Italien….
      scroll down here for a big one
      http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.pardoes.com/images/photos/gpref2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.pardoes.com/climbing/paradiso.htm&usg=__TEhH1hamXzz_KnddDO7oRO14tUM=&h=291&w=367&sz=11&hl=en&start=57&um=1&tbnid=s2FuL2MjJfWamM:&tbnh=97&tbnw=122&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dalpine%2Bhut%2Brefuge%2Bwalk%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DN%26start%3D40%26um%3D1 . .

      http://www.summitpost.org/images/medium/67990.jpg . .

      Bivvies, from the French word Bivouac, which really means a small tent or shelter,quick to set up and pack, for soldiers.
      The Army two-person canvas tents were called bivvies and the word is now used for all small tents for camping and climbing so a bivvy or a bivvy bag is a very small tent or waterproof bag, unless you’re an angler, when a bivvy is quite a large tent compared to the ones called bivvies by campers and climbers.
      http://www.gofishing.co.uk/Angling-Times/Section/how-to/Coarse-fishing-advice/Useful-Stuff/Fishopaedia2/Bivvy–Bivvie/ . .
      .http://www.1campingtent.com/bivvy-bag-camping.htm . . . .
      Because it is a word for a quickly set up shelter it shouldn’t really be used for a building, but sometimes is.

      Bothies ..(singular..Bothy)…an unlocked simple building, often of stone, normally in the hills and mountains but can be anywhere for use as a shelter by anyone.
      Many bothies were originally built as shelters for shepherds.
      http://www.mountainbothies.org.uk/ . . . .
      Here is a simple bothy in Wales . . . http://wood2.woodyland.org/pics/missions/2004/snowdonia-20040131/thumb/dscf5804-1-0.html . . .
      Here is one in Scotland . . http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.caledoniahilltreks.com/gallery07/lurg_mhor_july07/06%2520Bearneas%2520Bothy.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.caledoniahilltreks.com/gallery07/lurg_mhor_july07/06%2520Bearneas%2520Bothy.htm&usg=__hSmJVP14qVGbXJNpj3OcjRcj2Rc=&h=768&w=1024&sz=209&hl=en&start=38&um=1&tbnid=7dWYA-4Wb4_1TM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbothy%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DN%26start%3D20%26um%3D1 . . .

      There are lots of other places you can stop but they are not confined to mountains. Obviously you can sit or lie down and have a rest almost anywhere if you are in a safe enough area, just as with walks in the valleys and plains or along the coast, where there are also tree stumps or fallen trunks, and rocks or sheltered banks which make convenient stopping points.

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    Lively Camping? Me and a few mates enjoy going camping and mainly go around northwest England. After a day of walking we like to have a few beers and a laugh in the evenings, however most places wont tolerate noise after a certain time (generally around 2230!!!). I would be grateful if anyone knows of any livlier campsites, or any ideas of where we could go.

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      You could try up here in bonnie Scotland, well the west coast and most of the highlands, there are also things called bothies which if can identify and find are old cottages ( no tents needed), usually all have fire places and are free of charge.

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    Where To Wild Camp In Scotland? Can anyone tell me if there is anywhere along the Scottish coast where my son and I can pitch our tents and do a bit of fishing, crabbing and rock-pooling, preferably somewhere remote and isolated Thank you

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      When I was a young man (sadly many years ago now!) I had a passion for travelling to remote places throughout the UK and overseas. Some of the most memorable places I visited were the Western Isles off the coast of Scotland. They include some of the most unique landscapes in this country, and a step back in time to a more simple existence for the people who inhabit these islands.

      Going back through old photo’s of my travels, I came across a few from the Isle of Jura which brought back many happy memories. After a short ferry ride from Tarbert, the island rises up roughly from the sea proudly displaying its famous Paps which soar over 2500 feet above the coast. There is just one road on the island, so it wasn’t difficult after departing the ferry to decide which direction to head. I was carrying enough food for a week, a tent and outdoor gear so it wasn’t long before I decided to hitch a lift from a local who kindly took me the few miles to Leargybreck where my hike up the Paps Of Jura would begin.

      I found a small wooded area to leave my tent and non-essentials, tucked out of site for the day, allowing me to travel light over the rough steep terrain of the mountains. It was a perfect spring day, warm and sunny with light breeze to keep cool and climbing to the top of Beinn an Oir, the highest of the peaks at 2,575 feet, was a pleasure despite being a tough walk over heavy scree in places.

      The view from the top was simply stunning, the mountains dropping steeply down to the sea then endless miles of ocean and neighbouring islands. It would have been nice to stay there for hours and explore the other two peaks, but I wanted to make further progress up to the north of the island before it got dark. The walk back down the mountain was much quicker than the ascent.

      After hitching another lift I reached the end of the road after Loch Tarbert, and from here there was no choice but to lug my heavy pack across country to the western side of the island and my destination of the Glengarrisdale Bothy. There can be few more dramatic and remote locations for a mountain bothy than Glengarrisdale Bay, and not surprisingly there was nobody else there when I arrived.

      The bothy was dry and warm, there was plenty of driftwood for the fire and I soon had plenty of food and drink to enjoy in the setting sunlight at the end of a remarkable day. The next day was overcast and a good one to rest and relax, exploring the local coastline and discovering that I had the company of several snake nests to keep me alert. The following day was bright and sunny again, so I headed north up the coastline to the tip of the island at the Gulf of Corryvreckan where there was a notorious whirplool in the shallow waters between Jura and the uninhabited island of Scarba. George Orwell had reportedly nearly lost his life in a small boat passing through the Gulf, but today it was as calm as a mill pond.

      I took the opportunity to walk the few miles to the remote cottage of Barnhill, where Orwell finished his final book 1984 shortly before his death after a long illness with TB. It was easy to see where his inspiration came from, the place is about as far away as he could get from the trauma of the 2nd world war and the social nightmares he was trying to articulate.

      After another day of rest at Glengarrisdale, it was time to head back to the road and hitch a lift back to Craighouse to enjoy the delights of the Isle of Jura distillery for a few hours before catching the ferry back to the mainland.

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    Laws Regarding Hebrides Islands? I was wanting to stay for some weeks on a Hebrides island, perhaps Rockall, or Taransay. What are the laws regarding them, how would I get there. And what safety precautions should I take?
    I intend to stay in a bothy, as opposed to camping out with a tent.

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      A bothy on Rockall? Where? It’s a lump of rock sticking out of the sea.
      Nowhere to put a bothy, or a tent.
      For safety precautions, go somewhere else than a lump of rock 227 miles from the nearest land.
      Here it is on a good day
      Taransay is livable. The Castaway program was done there. Those folks were OK, they had a TV crew as back-up.
      You could live now well enough though better than they did. There are enough mice to catch for mouse stew and the fishing will be OK.
      There are places to rent there now with good views and enough boats coming and going so you can do some shopping if you don’t fancy mouse stew.
      Since that Castaway program it’s got a tourist industry going. It’s got a holiday bothy too, posh one sleeps 10 people.
      Posh for a bothy anyway..

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    • Matt
    • February 20, 2014

    What Type Of Dog Is Best For What I Want? I am looking for a dog I can take out into the hills with me on long walks with overnight stops in tents/bothies. I’d love a collie but they possibly require to much and can be very unforgiving of any training errors. I want to spend time training whichever breed I get to a decent level so it needs to be intelligent. Medium size and naturally friendly and loyal. So in summary: fit, intelligent, loyal and friendly, any ideas?

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      German Shorthaired Pointer- Active breed, Short hair, Built for outdoor activity, trainable, loyal, what more would you want!?

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    Im Looking For Any Great Overnight Mountainous Hikes To Do In Britain? Maybe 2 or 3 nights, definitely mountains and difficult passes, all in training and preparation for the Appalachian trail. I’ve never done any hiking at all before so need to practice first

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      I would start off from the basics – a few day hikes then hills and then an overnight expedition then 2 or 3 nights – just to build up your experience before it gets too serious.

      Perhaps you could look at the Nevis range / Grey Corries area for a decent couple of nights expedition – quite wild but you have the option to look into the various mountain bothys instead of taking a tent – makes things lighter

      Where in the UK you go to all depends where you can get to of course – not so good me recomending a route that will take you a day to get to if you only have 3 days in total to travel, walk and travel home again (you don’t want to start an expedition when its getting dark, start about mid day to get a few miles in first)

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    The West Highland Way……………………? I want to walk the West Highland way around a couple of months time, will there still be a lot of people walking it, what will the weather be like, are there many towns/hostels along the way? have you done it, was it fun? what was your experiance?

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      Do-able in autumn and winter, but not exactly crowded at that time of the year.
      There are loads of places to stay in B&Bs, a few hostels, organised campsites, or camp wild.
      The biggest concern is the weather. It can blow a hooli and if there’s hail with it, it can sting the face like salted razors.
      One of the worst bits is Rannoch Moor, a cold bleak plain that goes for miles and is very exposed. It’s also very wet. It’s the main watershed for the hills around it.
      The peat is full of holes…black holes they’re called, full of black stinking peaty water and sometimes a carcass where a deer or some other aninmal missed seeing one amongst the tufts of high grasses. If you fall into a deep one you might never get out gain…be very careful and watch every step if you are off a main path.
      As a bike ride, the road across the moor to Glencoe is a paradise of riding in good weather…one of my favourite rides in all of Britain…..sheer exuberant glory, riding over there. It’s just wonderful for a ride and then through the joys of Glencoe with it’s mountains rising either side and the road feeling like air beneath the wheels, unless you’re coming through the glen the other way. More of a push then, a long slow grind all the way up.
      There are plenty of spots for camping through the glen and you can find groups of bushes and shrubs and old bothies and walls to use for shelter.
      Rannoch is a beautiful place, wild and remote, and for all the dangers of walking across it, it’s one the great experiences of British walking, or cycling.
      If you do only one section, Rannoch and Glen Coe is a great choice.
      http://www.scotland-info.co.uk/rannoch.htm . . . .
      When the snow is down, just don’t bother going off the paths in the wetter areas …it’s much too dangerous because you can’t see the holes and if you fall through the ice into six feet of slimy stinking black water, you’ll have a hard job staying alive.
      You’d be better staying on the road, though road walking isn’t as much fun. It’s still a lovely walk though.
      http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/23/c6/59/rannoch-moor-boxing-day.jpg . . . . . .
      Once across it you enter Glencoe, past Buachaille Etive Mor……worth a climb if the weather is good…..and then the much easier time getting to Fort William. If the chair lifts are working you can get to the tops the easy way and it’s a joy to go up on them.
      There is a visitor centre, and a mountain pursuits centre, with an excellent cafe and lots to see.
      http://www.glencoemountain.com/ . . . . .
      http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/glencoe/glencoe/index.html . . . . . .
      The low sections, for example along Loch Lomond are fine, but again wind can be a problem late in the year. It gets very cold in a high wind. Horizontal rain isn’t good for making fast progress either. It’s best to be flexible with planning on long walks.
      Accommodation is fine all along the route and if you don’t want to camp wild, you can normlly plan the days to include a hostel or a B&B.
      At Crianlarich, a lovely little village, there is a youth hostel and plenty of B&B or hotel accommodation.
      http://crianlarichyouthhostel.org.uk/ . . . .
      http://www.goscot.co.uk/north/bnb/bed_breakfast_crianlarich.htm . . . . .
      You can get there by bus or train and just do the route from there as an alternative to doing all of it if time is a problem.
      It’s best to take a tent and warm sleeping bag, at least two space blankets and plenty of rations because you could end up caught in very bad weather with little notice during the later months of the year. The bad stuff can brew up quickly in the mountains, and it’s best to be prepared.
      You might meet somebody else who needs a helping hand too. A couple of space blankets weigh very little and can do a lot of good in helping to combat hypothermia, and having enough food and fuel to be able to feed somebody else for a couple of days is one of my basic principles of being out in wild places.
      The whole route is on the official West Highland Way site, with details of the terrain, accommodation, things to do and see on the way etc.
      http://www.west-highland-way.co.uk/ww_subpage.asp?inst=5&id=561 . . . . .
      Have a great time.

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