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    Dog’s Trainer………? Victoria Stilwell and Cesar MillaN: which is the best dog trainer? I think they have different methods

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      I like Victoria Stilwell! (Yes, she is a true dog trainer and NOT just an actor!) She is certified by the Animal Behavior and Training Associates and is a member of the Association of Pet Dog Trainers (APDT). She began working with dogs in 1990. She is the author of two books and has a website. http://positively.com/victoria-stilwell/about-victoria/

      Here I go again...let me explain why I despise Cesar Millan…but first…for all you Cesar Millan fans out there.

      Some people need to do some serious reading... http://beyondcesarmillan.weebly.com/ http://www.4pawsu.com/cesarfans.htm

      I highly recommend these books. The Power of Positive dog Training by Pat Miller and Positive Perspectives 2: Know your dog, Train your dog by Pat Miller. Both of these books are very detailed and advanced, (The second book more so than the first one) and it will enlighten ANYONE on positive reinforcement dog training. These books bust the silly myths that people have about positive dog training.

      Sorry to disappoint everyone, but Cesar Millan IS NOT a real dog trainer! Not even close! He is an actor!

      Cesar Millan is a self taught "professional" dog trainer. I despise him! I don't see any certifications from him or any sort of schooling whatsoever! He just declares himself a dog trainer! Excuse me, but if you are serious about becoming an honest to god GOOD dog trainer, then you need to work for it. To start with, you must SLOWLY work with a local dog trainer (positive reinforcement) and then move on to working with well known, respected dog trainers. This will take YEARS of COLLEGE and SCHOOLING! Secondly, you MUST be willing to devote the time and hard work it takes to become a trainer. You MUST be willing to do a lot of research and work through all of the myths and craziness in the dog training world! You MUST love dogs and be passionate about training them! Has Cesar Millan done any of this? NO!

      In my book, I only respect dog trainers that have gone to COLLEGE and WORKED for their animal behavior degree!

      He has been in some "minor" legal problems. People have sued him and he has been greatly criticized. No honest, good, dog trainer gets sued from their own clients! And yes, he does do cruel, abusive, inhumane, so called "training" methods on dogs. I can't believe so MANY people worship him! It's sick!

      Cesar has a huge ego that I would LOVE to deflate! That kind of attitude NEVER goes over well with me.

      Cesar Millan doesn't genuinely care about dogs. If he cared about dogs he would march himself out there and actually get an education in dog training and behavior and he wouldn't be such a show off.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQUegRGo0... Watch this video. All Cesar is doing is waiting for the dog to get so tired of jumping and of getting strangled, that he collapses to the ground. The dog was NOT finally letting up and becoming "submissive." Without a doubt this is ABUSE! I will say once again, I despise Cesar and I'm desperately trying to get people to use their brains and stop worshiping him!

      I love positive reinforcement training. Positive reinforcement is not a death sentence. The goal of this method is to make training a more pleasant experience for the dog and owner while STILL producing a well trained dog.

      You can't deny the fact the Cesar Millan isn't qualified in any way to train dogs. He has no business waltzing around telling people what to do with their dogs.

      This is the 21st century. Things have changed. People have found more effective ways to train dogs without fear or force. And yes, that INCLUDES aggressive dogs. ALL DOGS can be trained with positive reinforcement, including APBT, Rottweiler's, Bulldogs and Bull Terriers!

      Now, lots of people will argue with me because Cesar Millan is accredited and recognized by the International Association of Canine Professionals. Did he have any former training to begin with? No. He is still self taught. I know he claims that he reads dog psychology books all of the time, but I see he learns nothing from them nor do I believe that he reads those books in the first place.

      A large association like the IACP is not going to deny Cesar Millan a spot in their accreditation area since he has such a huge following. It all has to do with business. Its good business for them to accredit him whether he should be or not. And of course it does a lot of good for Cesar too.

      The dominance/alpha training method has proven to do more harm than good! People will NEVER master the art of trying to be a dog or wolf! We will never be able to perfectly replicate what a dog will do to another dog. This is why the dominance/alpha/pack leader method is useless and has hurt many dogs and people. People have gone WAY overboard on this method. People become total idiots and power happy and all they focus on is more ways to enforce their position as a "PACK LEADER" and "THE BOSS."

      Centuries ago, people came up with their own ideas, opinions and methods about training dogs. This is not so anymore. This is the 21st century. Science has come into play and numerous studies have been done, therefore, there is now a RIGHT and a WRONG way of training dogs. You can train a dog with positive reinforcement without the crap Cesar millan preaches and STILL be the pack leader.

      All he does is tell people to take your dog for a walk and exercise them a zillion times! Exercising your dog is very important, but it's not the cure to EVERYTHING! He also is CONVINCED that EVERY single dog is dominate and was put on this earth to overtake you!! WRONG! There are dominant dogs out there, but not many!

      The huge problem that Cesar Millan has is the way he deals with aggressive dogs. Two wrongs don't make a right and he shouldn't fight and be aggressive right back to the dog. Obviously, literally fighting with an already aggressive dog WILL cause harm every single time. His dog psychology is quite mixed up. There are practicing, DEGREED animal behaviorists that use positive reinforcement and positive punishment to rehabilitate dogs. You can't tell me that Cesar Millan's "expertise" is more important than a VETERINAIANS opinion can you? Vets SEE first hand the physical damage that these outdated training techniques do! True animal behaviorists SEE the emotional damage.

      I’m NOT a Cesar Millan fan and I never will be!

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    Do Spin Trainers Really Work? I have seen spin trainers online, in catalogs and at my local skate shops. How do these spin trainers work? Has anyone found spin trainers to be particularly helpful? I’m interested in buying one but I’m not sure if its a waste of money or not. Any thoughts would be helpful.

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      Spin trainers are debatable. They’re tough to use, I’ve tried them and I don’t spin anywhere near as well on a spin trainer as I do on the ice.

      Some people don’t like them, some people think they’re dangerous. I had a coach walk by while I was trying out my friend’s spin trainer and she gave me a very worried look and told me to be careful with it.

      I once read in a skating magazine that spin trainers are harder than spinning on the ice because if your balance is off with a spin trainer, you just fall off. But on the ice you can keep spinning and not fall if your balance isn’t perfect, you just end up traveling. So it was the opinion of the person in that article that spin trainers are good because they force you to have good balance and travel less on the ice.

      However, try to get a spin trainer that’s kinda secured to the floor, like it has suction pads on the bottom. I tried a friend’s spin trainer once and it was just this plastic thing that you put on the concrete and stuck your foot on it and spun. I tried doing a back scratch spin and pushed into it a little too hard and I went one way and the spin trainer went flying the other way! We were lucky no one was standing where the spin trainer went flying, it could have taken out an eye!

      So if you’re very careful with it and have a coach/spotter who knows what they’re doing, a spin trainer could be useful. And you may want to seriously consider it if your access to ice time is very limited (i.e. the rink is closed 6 months out of the year and you want to remember the motion of spinning so you don’t get dizzy when you get back on the ice). But I think it’s safer to have a good coach on the ice and just spin on the ice. The tracings on the ice will tell you if you’re traveling or not, and if the spin is centered then you’re balance is right on and you’re doing fine. If you’re traveling then you know something is wrong with the spin, you’re off balance or not holding the position tight enough. Just remember once you enter the spin and hit the right position, hold that position as tightly and as long as you can, ’cause once you start to relax and wobble around the spin will travel.

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    Any Dolphin Trainers Out There??? How do i become a dolphin trainer??

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      NOT a trainer, but I hope the info helps.


      5. Training
      Animal trainers have one of the most visible jobs within a zoological park–the one most people ask about, and one of the most difficult to get. There are a very limited number of openings in this field. Background experience helpful for a position in this department would include courses or knowledge in zoology, behavioral and experimental psychology, animal behavior, public speaking, communications, education, and theater.

      Good health and strong athletic fitness are mandatory. Expect to undergo a rigorous swim test when applying for an animal training position at an aquatic park. In addition, the ability to communicate with the public in a positive manner and plenty of patience are required of anyone who would like to become a trainer. Because they announce and narrate at the shows in which the animals perform, confident public speaking skills are essential for animal trainers.

      Due to the specialized nature of the work, an on-the-job apprenticeship is necessary. Even if an individual has had previous experience training animals, he or she must go through a period of time during which he or she becomes familiar with the individual animals’ personalities and training methods used before he or she interacts directly with them.

      http://www.theswig.com/FAQ.htm(The Sea World Information Guide Frequently Asked Questions)
      How do I become a trainer?

      Obviously, you’re going to need to be enrolled in a science program, either Marine Science or Marine Biology. Marine Science, while a fair amount of work to get through, will not adequately prepare you for a career working with animals. Most Marine Science majors end up on oceanographic missions such as charting marine weather patterns, currents, tides, etc. Marine Biology would be best for those wishing to work as a trainer or with animals in general. In addition to learning about the marine environment and its inhabitants, expect to take a lot of math classes, as well as Physics and Chemistry.

      The requirements to be a Sea World trainer include a friendly, outgoing personality, the ability to lift and carry up to 50 pounds, SCUBA certification, and STRONG swimming skills.

      In general, you will not hire in as a trainer. When a position opens on the training staff, Sea World prefers to promote or transfer from its existing pool of employees. That means that today’s popcorn vendor can be next year’s Shamu trainer. Well, assistant anyway. Being a trainer is more than just wanting the job. You will start off by slinging fish and cleaning the facilities. It can be as long as two years before you are actually in the water with the animals. Although they are cute and seem friendly, they are wild and can react instinctively at any time. Even a 4-foot long common dolphin can readily kill a human.

      Oh, and one final thing. There are no rich marine scientists or marine biologists out there. The pay at Sea World is not far above minimum wage. You will work, long, hard hours. You may not get to be a trainer, even after several years on the job, or you may end up working with animals you’d rather not.

      Did I scare you off yet? If not, then may you have what it takes: An undying love of animals that is foremost to everything else in your life. It’s not a financially rewarding career, but the emotional payoff can be incredible.

      28. What are some helpful hints if I want to work with animals?
      ….For example, if you want to work at Sea World, they will need you to pass a swim test, and be SCUBA certified. Anyone who wants to work with marine mammals, should plan on getting SCUBA certified. Most marine mammal facilities will not hire you unless you show them a SCUBA certification card (and be a decent swimmer).
      This is a good example of something you need to explore and think about……

      How to become a marine mammal trainer:

      Most marine mammal trainers start by volunteering at an oceanarium or zoo. Often people work in other departments, such as operations, maintenance, or education, before transferring to a job in animal training. For the best advice about a career in marine mammal training, contact the International Marine Animal Trainers’ Association.

      …also look in to Moorpark College’s Exotic Animal Training and Management (EATM) Program. They have a “hands-on” program that teaches you how to train exotic (and domestic) animals.
      FAQ 16
      Will the EATM program give me an advantage over any other schools or programs?

      …Many of our students want to train marine mammals – we send graduates all over the world to do this. Especially to the Caribbean – a new Dolphin Program hired 4 graduates in the summer of 2001, and more in 2002, 2003 & 2004.
      The May 2003 graduates currently have many wonderful jobs. One is working in Shamu Stadium at Sea World Orlando, training the Killer Whales! (His photo is to the right)…

      As well as education you should also work on getting as much hands-on experience as you can. Try to volunteer at a Marine Animal Rehabilitation Center. Anheuser-Busch Adventure Parks (Sea World is one of them) offer students a unique opportunity to gain valuable work experience while working in a fun and exciting environment. They employ High School and college students.http://www.becjobs.com/Scripts/Student.aspx

      Other experience opportunities might be: http://www.sandiegozoo.org/jobs/keeper_faq.html
      o Veterinary offices
      o Animal training classes (does your dog need obedience training?)
      o Local Humane Society
      o Local Park Service
      o Wildlife rehabilitation centers (like for wolves, bears, big cats, birds of prey, and even bats)
      o Animal shelters
      o Farms (for domestic animals, or even ostrich, llama, or butterfly farms)
      o Pet breeders (those that breed specific kinds of dogs, cats, or horses)
      o Horse stables and boarding facilities
      o 4-H Clubs

      CATCH 22?
      1. To get a job working with animals, you need experience with animals. This bit of truth seems to create a frustrating circle. You need experience to get a job, but you can’t get experience unless you have a job, right? Well, yes and no.

      1. To begin a career caring for animals, you should be prepared to start with a volunteer or entry-level position. Call your nearest zoo or aquatic park and ask for details on becoming a volunteer (also called a docent or intern). Humane societies, animal rehabilitation clinics, and some veterinary clinics also welcome volunteers. Although your duties with a humane society or veterinary clinic will most likely involve working indirectly with animals (cleaning cages and preparing food), volunteer duties at a zoo or aquatic park range from filing or answering phones to being trained to make educational presentations or feed newly hatched birds.

      Volunteering your time shows that you’re serious about your commitment to animals. Develop a reputation for being an eager, cooperative, hard-working person, and your volunteer effort may help you get a job in the future. Supervisors are often asked to give character references for volunteers who’ve worked for them.

      1. A strong background in zoology is necessary for most of the jobs that involve working closely with animals. Ask your school counselor to help you work out a course list that will prepare you to earn a degree in zoology, biology, chemistry, botany, or psychology. Take your classes seriously; zoological parks are more interested in hiring a hard-working, knowledgeable person than someone who “loves animals.”

      Don’t wait until you have a degree before you apply for a job at a zoological park. Some of the curators, supervisors, aquarists, and others got their start by working at snack stands and gift shops before moving into their present careers. An entry-level position will help you establish a name for yourself as a dedicated employee, and introduces you to how hiring is handled within that zoological institution.

      Lastly, many of the professional organizations listed in the Appendix have special membership rates for nonprofessionals and students. You’ll be able to learn more about animals and zoological careers through their newsletters. Also, by attending local workshops and even national conferences, you might make some good contacts and get more information on how to chart your path for your zoological park career.

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    How To Become A Racehorse Trainer? I want to shadow a trainer at santa anita race track or delmar. How does this work?

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      To become a racehorse trainer, you have to pass the licensing test and the background investigation. That’s the easy part.

      Most people who want to be trainers start out working as a groom or hot walker and work their way up to assistant trainer, generally taking the licensing exam while they are still working for someone else. They learn from the trainer they’re working for, and if you read the biographies of successful trainers, you find that some worked for more than one trainer before they went out on their own, trying to soak up as much information and gain as much experience as they can.

      The difficult part of becoming a trainer is getting and keeping clients who can afford to buy decent horses. If you pick up a copy of The Blood-Horse magazine or any other racing publication, you’ll find ads for trainers trying to get horses, offering to train for a percentage of winnings rather than charging a fee for training.

      Hall of Fame trainer Elliot Burch was once asked in an interview what was the most important thing a trainer had to know. “How to persuade clients to buy you good horses,” he said, without any hesitation at all. Success isn’t necessarily enough; Jack Van Berg, for example, who trained Alysheba to win the Derby, among other races, went through some thin times afterwards when he couldn’t get and keep clients. (Dale Baird, who won over 9400 races as a trainer, dispensed with the need to get and keep clients by buying horses to train for himself. He mostly trained claiming horses and has been reviled by many people for the number of horses he sent to the kill pens when he was finished with them. He owned most of the horses he trained and declined offers to train for other people, because he didn’t like having to cater to the whims of clients.)

      If you want to work for a trainer, ask at the stable gate if anyone is hiring or try to talk to a trainer during the morning work-out hours. Then be prepared to work hard. Most trainers work newbies very hard the first week to ten days, because they want the people who want a job handed to them to quit. Many trainers are also somewhat cynical about people who tell them they want to learn how to train, because they’ve found a lot of these people think that after a few weeks they should be able to go off on their own and train. Successful trainers don’t have time for people who do this. They want people willing to work for them and stick around for more than a short while.

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    Two Worlds Trainers XBOX 360, HELP!!!!!? I am having a very hard time getting any trainers to teach me sneak, everytime I ask a train I get the in the future bit.
    Does anyone know where the trainer is to teach sneak? It’s the only skill I’m missing.
    Thanks so much in advance.

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      Trainer Information
      It is important that you find the trainers as soon as you can if you wish to
      have access to all of the skills in the game. To learn some of these skills and
      to improve them you will need to find a variety of different trainers. There
      are eight types in total and can be found spread across the land.

      * Cathalon – In the southeast area of town with three other trainers.
      * Eastern Camp – Head east of Quidnar to find the camp. You will see three
      trainers, he is one of them.
      * Qudinar – Look in the southeastern portion of town to find him and two other
      trainers loitering about.

      * Brotherhood Camp – Northern area of the camp.
      * Cathalon – In the southeast area of town with three other trainers.
      * Eastern Camp – Head east of Quidnar to find the camp. You will see three
      trainers, he is one of them.
      * Qudinar – Look in the southeastern portion of town to find him and two other
      trainers loitering about.
      * Western Camp – Look around near the inn.

      * Cathalon – Located near the Central Fountain, look around for him.
      * Qudinar – Look in the eastern portion of town, near the center of the area.

      * Qudinar – Look in the southwestern portion of the town.

      * Enclave – You must find the Enclave to reach the two Necromancer trainers
      located there. Find it south of Hadeborg Castle.
      * Qudinar – Near the graveyard outside of the city.

      Night Walker
      * Koromin – Head south to Vesit’s Coral and then head northeast from there.
      * Qudinar – Look in the southwestern portion of the town.
      * Western Camp – Look around near the inn.

      * Cathalon – In the southeast area of town, head further east past the four
      other trainers.
      * Koromin – South of Koromin, near Vesit’s Coral.

      * Brotherhood Camp – Northern area of the camp.
      * Cathalon – In the southeast area of town with three other trainers.
      * Qudinar – Look in the southeastern portion of town to find him and two other
      trainers loitering about.

      * Cathalon – In the southeast area of town with three other trainers.

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    • Juana
    • February 20, 2014

    Advantages Of A Personal Trainer? I go to a gym and I see all the time that personal trainers give their clients different exercises than the regular trainers. Why is that? They do not even use the same machines!!

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      I am a personal fitness trainer, and i have a certificate from the National Personal Training Institute in Orlando, FL.

      i have been involved in the fitness field for more than 10 years, starting out as a certified aerobics instructor when i was 19, working with people one-on-one from time to time even when i wasn’t exactly a certified trainer.

      in these ten years, i have witnessed people who hit the gym hard for a week, only to never show up again.

      these same people will look to me for training, and with someone waiting at the gym for them with a planned program (no thinking or planning on their part), they are less likely to skip the gym.

      so, this has covered reasons numbers 1 and 2:

      1. you are more likely to attend your scheduled gym session, knowing that you are not only going to let yourself down, but the trainer that is waiting for you as well.

      2. you do not have to plan your own workout and wonder if it’s effective; you have someone to plan it for you and to explain to you (hopefully in terms you can understand) what you’re doing and why it’s effective.

      before i became certified in personal training, i observed people in the gym doing weight training exercises too fast and too sloppy, performing exercise with obviously too much weight, performing exercises where their backs should be straight and shoulders back… but instead their backs would be rounded… their overall form just a big mess.

      becoming a trainer gave me the opportunity to correct these people without just appearing to be a “know-it-all”.

      so, another reason:

      3. to ensure that the client is performing the exercise with the correct form; this prevents injury and gives the client a more effective workout.

      and i only have time for one more out of many, many reasons.

      most of the time, a person will go to the gym and wonder what they did the last time they were there; they usually depend only on their memory. they can’t really remember the actual number of reps they performed, the actual weight they did, the setting of a certain machine that worked best for them, etc, etc.

      a trainer is trained to record all these things, along with the rate of perceived exertion (how difficult the exercise was for the client) so that they will know whether or not the client is ready to go up in weight or reps the next session, or if they need to stay where they are at for a while.

      so, the last reason (all i have time for):

      4. to keep immaculate records of workouts, so that you have an accurate timeline as to how long it took you to reach your goals, and you never have to wonder what you did the last time you were at the gym. saves time, too – while the trainer is recording, you are pumping iron.

      hope this helps to answer your question, and that i didn’t ramble too much.

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    • Bear
    • February 22, 2014

    Personal Trainer Certification In Michigan? Is there a school in michigan detroit area where i can get personal trainer certification.

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      Yes, while the National Personal Training Institute has many locations, here’s the one in Rochester Hills, Michigan, 20 miles from Detroit:

      National Personal Training Institute
      Powerhouse Gym
      278 East Auburn Road
      Rochester Hills, MI 48307

      500 Hour Personal Training Program

      The main objective of The National Personal Training Institute’s (hereinafter sometimes referred to as “NPTI”) program is to train each individual in the art and science of Personal Training. The knowledge and skills acquired by the students will prepare them for the occupation of a personal trainer. The program is also suitable for those who are adding skills to their profession as health care workers in nursing, physical or occupational therapy or any other related field.

      The National Personal Training Institute is committed to providing a high standard of education to each student. The National Personal Training Institute seeks to prepare its students with the specialized training needed to enter the work force and contribute to the community. We provide well qualified instructors and a curriculum that provides The National Personal Training Institute with the ability to release skilled personal trainers into the workforce. Our objective is to provide our students with the knowledge and confidence that every personal trainer needs and deserves. We stand by our word to provide you with a unique and comprehensive course.

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    Are Personal Trainers Considered Heroes? Ive always wanted to be a greater.good to ppl and help others like a modern day.superman but I dont know what kind of jobs would be like that. Ive thought about being a trainer and.help ppl get in shape but Idk if they are really hero like

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      Most personal trainers are a joke these days, far from being heroes. The problem is it’s far too easy to get the qualifications to become a personal trainer so there are lots of under qualified personal trainers around who have no idea what they’re talking about. Lots of personal trainers aren’t even in very good shape themselves.

      Don’t get me wrong though, there are some really good personal trainers out there who get amazing results with their clients but these are few and far between. I suppose you could consider some of these trainers heroes, it’s great if they are able to make such a positive difference in their clients lives.

      If you do ever decide to become a personal trainer make sure you don’t just settle for the mediocrity accepted in so many gyms today. Do the extra work, don’t just get the qualifications, if you want to be a good trainer you need to know a lot. Educate yourself as much as you can. Read books, websites, anything about exercise and nutrition (especially nutrition…so many trainers just neglect this even though it’s far more important than exercise). Talk to people who have been in the industry for years. The more you know, the better trainer you will be.

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